The immense planetary transition, the rising feminine and following your heart and soul

Nunaisi 00:00

Hello guys and welcome to Rise. I am so happy with today’s guest, her name is Robyn Viljoen and she acts like a bridge, with a background as a successful ethical business entrepreneur, combined with 17 years of training across many spiritual paths, Robyn is able to weave a unique blend of transpersonal coaching and soul guidance work. The core principle of her practice is around empowerment, and while the work she does with her clients may not always be comfortable, she is focused on creating healthy, grounded, interdependence and sovereignty in her clients’ lives. Robyn is in the process of writing a book aimed to provide a map of sorts for these times of transition. Welcome, welcome, Robyn.

Robyn Viljoen 00:59

Thank you so much, Nunaisi. It’s so good to be here and I feel positive that we’re going to weave some magic for all of our listeners today.

Nunaisi 01:10

Yes, absolutely. So, let’s dive right in, maybe you can give us a little bit of a backstory, how you ended up doing the kind of work you do, what led you here, and we’ll take it from there.

Robyn Viljoen 01:26

Great. So, I probably, like many people listening today, because I do think it’s very pertinent to these times, this word purpose has haunted me my whole life. I think back to being a seven-year-old girl and already feeling this pressure, and when I was much younger, I’ve had this feeling like I was a second Christ, which I know sounds like a very grandiose thing to say, but just hear me out. I understand now that I’m older, that I’m one of millions, billions, perhaps, of souls that have contracted to be here on the planet at this time, as we reawaken that unity consciousness, that Christ consciousness. So, this idea of purpose and of recognizing that I was not just a personality, I wasn’t just Robyn Smith, this girl back then, there was so much more, and I always knew that I had a soul.

From the very get-go, from as far back as I can remember, I’ve been on this mission to discover my soul and to bring more of my soul into this life, and that’s why I’ve studied so many different spiritual traditions and I’ve been part of different lineages, finding different tools that will help me bridge that gap between the personality or the persona and the authentic truth of my soul. We’re all on this mission to make the world a better place, and so that started off with me creating a business that was all around bringing ingredient integrity in the natural and organic industry, and I did that for over a decade.

Then, about almost 10 years ago, I felt that all too familiar nudge from within, that it was time to jump back into the void, jump back and start something new, and my journey became a lot more personal then. I used to work quite strongly as an environmental activist and I was really convinced that when people started recycling, then that would affect their consciousness, and then that would make the world a better place.

Every experience is valid, but my experiences have taken me to a place that we are in an ecological crisis on the planet, but we are in an ecological crisis because we are in an consciousness crisis. And so my work has moved very much from the ecological field into working with consciousness, and so I opened up a practice and started working with clients, and I’m now very committed to it, that I’m writing. Which kind of weaves a lot of what I’ve been speaking together, but the process that I’m going through in the book that I’m writing is on transition. So, let me just, as a disclaimer, also say that one doesn’t write a book on transition without going through transition oneself, which Nunaisi and I have compared notes on, but the book really is in recognition of the fact that as the frequency on the planet rises, every time light hits something, there’s a purification of sorts.

Every time we raise our frequency, there’s a purification from that light. And it’s not so different from doing a physical detox, if we were to just drink celery juice for three days, the body would react initially and it wouldn’t be pleasant, pimples would come up, the grumpiness, the emotions, headaches. I feel very strongly that a lot of that is happening on the planet at the moment, that the frequency of the planet is rising, and as that’s doing so, the pimples and the headaches, and all the emotion is starting to come up, all that toxicity is starting to come to the surface, but this is all happening because we are rising.

We are rising to a place of unification, to a place of balancing the divine masculine and the divine feminine within. At the moment, we live in a society and a culture that very much recognizes, and a lot of our society is constructed around the masculine principles of order, of structure, of logic, and rationality. It’s a time for the feminine to rise, so that the two can meet, and it is only when they meet that we can actually experience the masculine, the feminine, in that glorious divine unity.

So, the book is around what happens in this process. Because, as this is going on, we are collectively finding ourselves in a greater degree of transition, personally, and on the collective that I believe that we have seen before. And so, the book is really about helping potential readers to understand what the void is and to inspire reverence, and honoring of the void that transition takes us into, and then from that, weaving into an understanding of what the divine feminine really looks like, how we can embody that. Then, also against this backdrop of soul initiations and understanding why our soul takes us through these various initiations, through these crisis points, and then also some understanding of what’s happening on the planet from an cosmological/astrological point of view, with the feminine rising.

Ultimately, and bringing myself back to the beginning of the story, or coming back to the point of why am I here, I know I’m not just here for the white picket fence. I know that none of you listening are here for the white picket fence, there is a growing recognition that we are not just these physical binaries, but we are eternal beings, with these remarkable vehicles called the soul that take us through these experiences.

Nunaisi 07:48

Yeah, exactly. I would like you to talk a little bit more about the void, let our listeners really get a clear understanding of what you mean when you talk about the void.

Robyn Viljoen 08:01

Okay, good. Well, we’re really speaking my language here, so when I talk about the void, I’m talking about a place of potential and a place of birthing, and the void is intimately connected and linked to the great mother. So, our universe, all life, our whole cosmos, was birthed from a void, which is sometimes called a place of great nothingness, the place of great nothingness, but we mustn’t be fooled, because the void is the richest place of potential in our understanding, in all of the universe. It is the place that all life comes from, it is the place that life is incubated, where you can imagine swirling masses of potential. Like a mother’s womb, it is a place of darkness, and beautifully and suitably so, it’s dark because potential is still busy rising, form is still being created, and so it needs to be in that cocoon dark place for life to actually be birthed.

Now, on a practical level, void is that place between two doors. So, void is that place where you’ve decided to leave that marriage that wasn’t serving you, that toxic marriage, and the door is closed, but you’ve yet to find the relationship that you are searching for. So, you are in this place between a door having closed, and a door not yet having opened, and so many of us want to rush and to open that door. It’s between leaving that secure job because we are sitting on this dream of starting our own business, but we haven’t yet gotten to that place of prosperity and success. So, we are now sitting between this place of the unknown, two doors are closed, and we’re not too sure what direction is up and what direction is down. As I said, the temptation is to go and to quickly jump into the first relationship that comes our way, or to quickly take that first job offer, but really what I’m trying to inspire in the writing of my book and interviews like this, that we need to learn to hold. We do that when we recognize that the place that we’re in is not a place of nothingness, it’s a place of potential being birthed, it’s a place where we start to till the soil, and the soil, that dark, dense soil is so important for anything that’s going to grow out of it in the beyond, in the future. So, we need to sit in this place of void, we need to sit in this place of darkness, so that we can start to heal, that it is in the place of void that we start to let go of all those personas, all those masks that we had taken on board, that had allowed us to to create the toxic relationship or the toxic job in the first place, or even just that place we’d grown out of, perhaps it wasn’t even toxic.

We need to sit in the void, we need to sit in that darkness so that we can start to peel that back. We need to sit in the void, so that we can start to let go of who we think we are and we can start to birth who we are, who we are actually meant to be. So that when we open that door again, we come forth with truth, with a greater degree of authenticity. Now, I understand that this is an immensely uncomfortable place to be, and it’s a place that is very often coined the dark night of the soul, but there’s something to know about this dark night of the soul. In fact, the Christian mystic, James of the Cross, who wrote the Dark Night of the Soul, he penned this beautifully in this poem, and one of the things that he said is, “to know the paths that we walk on, we need to close our eyes and walk in the darkness”.

The reason why we need to do that is that when we base our truth on these outer eyes, and on the masks on the outside and on the mind, we can be deceived, and we can be pulled away from our truth. But in order to really know our truth, we need to close our eyes, and we need to drop into our hearts, and then that’s when we can be sure of the path that we walk on. So, taking that back to the void, there’s such immense value of learning how to hold when we don’t know and when times are uncertain, and when we’re not too sure what direction a project, an idea, a relationship is going to take. To just wait and to hold, and to see, because when we can close our eyes and go into that stillness, and go into our hearts, we will find the right path, we will open the right door, we will birth the greatest potential. So, that’s what I mean when I talk about the void.

Nunaisi 13:29

Right. Yeah, that place of the womb, right? It’s the sacred cosmic womb that births anything new that wants to be birthed. I think that a great amount of trust is needed, right? Trust in the perfection of life, in the guidance, in the holding of the beyond, to know that when we are there and it is uncomfortable, as you mentioned, and we sometimes maybe have to cultivate patience to actually hold on to that space without pushing and forcing something that is not yet ready. That trust is really the trust that created us, that brought us where we are, it’s beyond our logic mind, it’s beyond our thoughts or even beyond the vision that we have for the near future. We can only see so much and only looking backwards when we look at all those bigger or smaller, and dark nights of the soul, because we’ve got a few of them looking backwards, for sure, all of us, no exception. Then, only from a distance can we actually connect all the dots and think, and see the divinity in what happened, and the greater teachings, the greater births, the greater creativity, the greater growth and evolution that we had as souls, right?

So, sometimes we can’t see it from where we are, and we can’t see it even from a little bit ahead from where we are. Sometimes we need really that linear aspect of time to look back and see, oh, okay, if not that, that and that, and that would not happen, and I would not do that, and that and that. But we struggle to see it from where we are, and because of the uncomfort. So, do you have any tools or tips on how to sit in that place of void, and surrender into it, and linger there for as long as needed?

Robyn Viljoen 15:47

Yeah, that’s a good question. I’m going to get to that in a second, but before I do, I love what you said about trust, and there’s two things that I feel are really important to speak to about that, before I drop into the tools. The first is that, yes, we are there to cultivate that trust and that trust of the universe, which is ultimately ourselves, because we are source expressing itself, or we are God, or God is whichever term you are comfortable with, and this is a distraction. So, when we sit in that case of the unknown, that is where we really drop into our hearts and into our intuition, and that is the gift from that place, is learning the way. The way is known as the path of heart, you see, as I said, our minds can be deceived and our minds take us on all sorts of Cul de sacs, but our heart never does, our heart always knows the way. So, the way of the heart is immeasurably shorter than the way of the mind and that’s why if we can drop into our hearts, and live from our heart, we live with such a greater degree of flow in our lives, because our heart is connected to all the different realities, to all the different dimensions, and to one another, so to all the other beings that are involved with the decisions that we’re making.

So, that is why our soul takes us or creates the conditions in our lives where we are thrown into transition, where we are thrown into void. One can look at these conditions that the soul creates as initiations, they really are initiations into a greater degree of courage, a greater degree of trust, a greater degree of truth. But without these conditions, without these initiations, we wouldn’t ever be able to receive the gift of actually knowing how all-knowing we are, of actually knowing how connected we are, or knowing how powerful we are, and we can only experience that when we drop deeper into ourselves. In fact, in the last transition that I was going through, one of the images that my soul gave me, and perhaps this will be useful to anyone listening to understand what it is that I’m talking about, but what I was shown is that my consciousness was like an apartment block, and the level that I was standing on, the floor of all those rooms, that was done, I was shown that there was just rubble there, it was like dusty, there was no life. That I needed to take the elevator down into myself, and drop to a new level. Then, when I went there, I could see it was so fertile, I just saw forests and all this potential, and my consciousness will go back up to that level, to the floor, and I would see that there was nothing there, and that I really needed to trust myself, I really needed to trust the way, to be able to take that elevator down, to let go of the past that was on the floor, and to also, often more importantly, let go of those visions that I had started to create in my persona of how things needed to be, because I was attached to staying on that floor, to release that attachment and then to drop down to another level.

This is what the initiations do, these crisis points that we have in our lives, afford us the opportunity, they gift us the opportunity to drop into a deeper knowing of self. So, that’s what’s happening with these transitions, with these crisises, and potentially even with some of the traumas that are happening in our lives is that they may not be happening for a reason. That is debatable, but what is not debatable is that there is always choice, we always have this choice to take power from what’s happening and that is the initiation. The initiation is to be able to trust, the initiation is to find greater degrees of courage, and the initiation is to find a way of the heart so that we then drop into greater and greater degrees of we can bring more of our soul consciousness into our lives, which is what is happening on the planet. This is linked to the tools, it is the feminine, it is the divine feminine that holds the world’s soul.

And let me just regress here for a moment and explain, the feminine is nature, she is life, because the feminine births potential. So, if we look into nature, all we see is reproduction, there’s just reproduction happening on every level, and so that’s why the natural world and the feminine are so interlinked. So, it’s almost as if what is required on the planet right now, for us to avert the degrees of ecological disaster that awaits us is to rewild the planet, we need to rewild the planet. But remember, we are the planet, we are the earth, and so we need to rewild ourselves, we need to let go of these programs we have, that structure means safety, it doesn’t, we need to start embracing parts of those uncultivated parts of ourselves that we deny all the time and start dropping into greater degrees of truth. And so, because the feminine holds that world soul, as she starts rising, so that the energies of the Divine Feminine can actually unite with the energies of the divine masculine, so too are we collectively go through this initiation of bringing in more soul. So, again, that’s just bringing it back why there is so much opportunity for birth at the moment.

Something else that I want to share about this, which I absolutely love, which is that the Chinese sign for crisis is actually made up of two symbols, and those two symbols are danger and opportunity. So, that kind of just lands my point of why, potentially, one could argue that not everything that happens to us may always be happening for a reason. There are some terrible things that happen on the planet but there is always choice, there is always that opportunity that lies in that danger, for growth. And so, bringing this all back together, what can one do? How do we navigate the uncertain and dark, and often overwhelming waters of the womb of where we are re-earthing greater potentials of ourselves. One of the ways, and I’m talking to the men and the woman here, is to get in touch with our feminine nature, in order to do that there’s practices that we can do, but in order to do that, we need to understand what is our feminine nature before we can get in touch with it. But our feminine nature is that knowing, it’s that connection to life, it’s not cultivated, it’s the emotions, it’s the feelings, it’s the flow and the current that creates the birth, it’s not logic, it’s not rational, it’s flowing with it, it’s moving with it, it’s dropping into it, it’s that stillness that sits there, it’s that nurturing, it’s that connection, but it’s also the rage.

We deny all these parts of ourselves, but all of them are valid, because the mother will nurture but she is fiercely protective, and will go to extremes to protect life. We all have that within us and as that feminine rises, I believe, again, pulling it back to what’s happening ecologically on the planet, our consciousness and our rage, and our ability to defend and to protect life, all life on the planet, is going to increase as well. So, the first thing we need to do is to understand and to start to connect with those feminine forces within, and we can do that through spending more time in nature. In actually starting to re-wild ourselves, go light a safe fire, but go light a fire and put some music on, and take your clothes off, and just start to express yourself, start to get in touch with your body. Movement is an incredible way of starting to bring In the feminine, and I’m not even talking about dance, because dance has structure, you can do it right and wrong, and there’s a certain logic to dance. Just move, just express yourself, process art, when you’re starting to feel emotional, our natural tendency is to put a lid on it.

Like everything, we try and we numb it, but when that happens, go grab some colored pencils and crayons, and actually start processing what’s happening, start moving that energy through yourself onto a piece of book. Again, you’re not drawing because drawing has structure, you’re just moving with the colors and just expressing that, and moving the emotions out, so we can actually start to feel or embody all that is there to be felt, which is very much the feminine, she is very much that raw energy within. So, we want to give ourselves opportunity to express that, through movement, through the art, through spending time in nature, through starting to connect with our sexuality, that’s a really big part for all of us. There’s a lot of processed work that can be done with it but there’s many simple practices that many people are starting to work with. There’s many womb practitioners, wisdom practitioners, we’ve got tools like the Yoni eggs, for the men, that’s actually starting to go out into nature with other men, and there’s many retreats like this that are starting to happen.

These are tools that really, Nunaisi, and I know that you know, this, these are tools that will really support us during this time, because we cannot sit in the void comfortably all here, it doesn’t work here, we need to drop into ourselves, and we need to drop into that birthing process, and we need to remember, it’s like birth, the void. So, when a woman is giving birth, she isn’t sitting like this, she’s moving with the energies of birth, and it’s a primal process, and so when we are in the void, we want to give ourselves the space to do that, we want to give ourselves the space to howl with the grief that we are busy transmuting in our bodies, we want to give ourselves the space to go into silence. So, if you find yourself in transition, make the space to just go sit in nature, you don’t need to do any special breathwork, you don’t need to do any meditation, you just need to go and sit, and listen, just listen.

So I hope that some of these tools and these practices will start to unlock, and I’m sure many of our listeners are doing aspects of this to unlock more, but really any practice that’s going to bring you into truth, and this word keeps coming up in our interview today, uncultivated truth, wild truth, because that is what is needed within and without, in this reality that we find ourselves in at the moment.

Nunaisi 28:13

Right, yeah, absolutely. To integrate the fullness of our planet, it’s one person at a time, right? Because we are the parts of the whole that makes this humanity. The feminine was suppressed and oppressed in all of us, men and women, and all other genders, for so many thousands of years, that we have to really consciously bring her essence in. It’s for all of us, we’ve being so patriarchy orientated that we have to really consciously make that choice to bring it on, because otherwise we’re not whole, we’re not integrated. That feminine was really dismissed, she was not considered to be valid, important, and revered as she deserves, and now that we’re starting to hear that term, more and more, feminine rising, this is really life knocking, saying, it’s time for not on top of the masculine, not instead of the masculine, the masculine is divine sacred important as well, we need both, but we have been cultivating the masculine for 1000s of years, and we still primarily live in that masculine paradigm when it comes to work, when it comes to the way we behave, act, and operate in the world. So, the feminine is such an unknown field of maybe confusion, maybe it’s not understood well, so it’s really about understanding what the feminine essence is and welcoming her into our body, into our soul, and starting from within, and then it obviously spills to the without. Right?

Robyn Viljoen 30:34

Yeah. A very big part of the gift of this life is the fact that we have this soul, this struggle that connects us to source, which is what our souls do, and we have deep, deep programming, all of us, that we carry, because we’ve lived in such an over-dominant appreciation of the masculine. And this programming is around this desire for comfort, for structure, but that is not where growth happens, and so these urges that we have from our hearts, the nudges and these visions of who we can be, and what we can do, and what life can look like on the planet, these are so valid. But in order to bring them forth, we need to find the courage to let go of the shore of everything we know, and start getting comfortable with throwing ourselves into the unknown, which is where the potential of the feminine lies. Just a really simple analogy to bring this to life for our listeners, Nunaisi and I, we both live on the Atlantic Ocean, the ocean is absolutely freezing here, but I’ve recently started getting into swimming in the ocean, and into going into that cold water, and after one of my many swims, I was standing on the shore afterwards, feeling so incredibly nourished and vital afterwards, I realized what an incredibly astute metaphor it is for the heart and for the times we live in, because there’s not much rational reason to go and have a swim, especially in winter, when it’s so cold outside and the water is so cold, and everything in your brain screams no. You really have to actually take yourself out of that comfort zone and just stop listening to your head, and almost put your blinkers on, and just dive in. But the moment that you do it and you get over that initial shock, so much vitality starts to come into your body, so much clarity starts to come, and courage. It does something, the more and more you let go of that instinct for safety and you start to push through it, the more courageous you start to become and the more of your inner warrior you start to find, the stronger you begin to realize that you are.

Also, once you’ve done it, you just want everyone else to start swimming in the ocean, especially the cold ocean because you know what a gift it is. So, we are in this time now where it is time to wake up, it is time to be all that we are, and huge reverence for the structure, and for the rationality and that celestial wisdom that comes from the masculine energy. But the divine masculine can never reach its potential without the divine feminine, the divine masculine is tired, if we look at ourselves spiritually, how much have we actually been growing with this dependence and with this distortion of balance between the masculine and the feminine. For real growth, we need to start allowing ourselves to surrender to the primal waters, those primal energies within, we need to start allowing ourselves to be comfortable with discomfort, we need to start allowing ourselves to be uncomfortable with the more uncomfortable emotions and sensations, and movements, and just start inviting in that fullness of experience, and we can only do that with the feminine. Then, when the feminine and the masculine dance together, that is when we experience that unity, when we have that ability. I always say to my husband, “It’s the woman’s role in the house”, because as a woman, one does naturally embody more of one of the energies, but I always say to him, when he rolls his eyes at me suggesting one more thing that we need to do, or one more place that we need to go, and I’m like, but respect it because my job is to bring God into the home, and is to bring the future in, because I have a greater capacity to go into those waters and to see the future. Then, it’s that masculine, and now I’m talking energetically, I don’t want to go into the roles, but then it’s the ability of the divine masculine to actually make that vision come to life, but if we subjugate and we suppress the feminine, we have all this ability to make things come to life but we’re not bringing in that potential, we’re not fully bringing in the vision of all that we can be, and that’s where the feminine really comes to the party.

Nunaisi 35:45

Yeah, that’s beautiful. I found that, especially in the process of writing a book, you’re going through that process, so you know probably what I’m talking about, it’s such a creation that requires the unity of the feminine and the masculine. Because the feminine is division, is bringing the creativity from the beyond, seeing the messages, seeing the creative part of it, but it cannot be put on paper, and summarizing to words without the structure and the discipline, and the planning of the masculine. So, this is a great analogy for anything we want to create in this life, for anything we want to bring forth, we need that unity of the feminine and the masculine, we need that collaboration, cooperation, support of each other, and really understanding that our thoughts are valid, and our emotions are valid, and when they co-align, when we understand that relationship between those two essences that we all have, no matter what gender we are, then we can bring forth our creation, then we can give birth to either a physical child or anything else we want to create in this world.

Robyn Viljoen 37:07

Absolutely. It’s such an exciting time to be on the planet, right now, when we are being supported to such a degree about all the astrological and cosmological changes, and even the urgency of what needs to happen, it’s right here in our face. So, there really is beauty in transition, and if there’s one thing that I leave our listeners with, it’s honoring the process of transitioning. Again, it’s that word of just learning to hold, becoming cognizant and aware of all the myriads of ways that we numb. We might not all be reaching for a glass of wine, but whether it’s the social media, or it’s the phone, or it’s TV, or it’s the excessive exercise, these are all ways that we take ourselves out of that place of room, of the void. And it’s learning to actually just hold, and hold and trust ourselves, and trust the process, as you so beautifully described.

Nunaisi 38:16

Yeah, thank you for that. I mean, I think that applies to every single one of us on the planet, right now. We are in planetary transition season and we’re all facing some form of transition in our life, in the past couple of months. It’s really a collective phenomenon, at the moment, so yeah, thank you for this valuable talk about transition, it’s very timely. I know that you have a beautiful gift to share with our audience, so maybe you want to share about that.

Robyn Viljoen 38:55

Okay, good. So, I’m going to do a very simple embodiment exercise, something that can be done at any moment of the day. So, if you can just close your eyes, and with your eyes closed just make sure that you are seated in a comfortable position so that the energy is able to flow through you. Might mean just straightening your back so that your chest opens or just dropping your hands in your lap, and we’re going to take some deep cleansing breaths now through our nose, bringing that energy up through our nose, and then releasing it through our mouth, continuing to breathe like this, breathing in that abundance of chi and lifeforce that’s always around us, nourishing our bodies. Then, using the exhale through our mouth as an opportunity to just release any stress or negativity that we might be carrying, continue to breathe like this in your own time. As you do, continuing to breathe, just notice how your breath, how this simple cleansing breath is helping you to settle more into the present moment. The majesty of the void is that we have to let go of the past, we have to let go of the future, to allow the great current of life, to allow that great current of potential to flow through us. Our breath has the ability to bring us into the present moment, that present moment where all of our power lies, our power is not in the past, it’s not in the future, it’s right now.

Continue using these cleansing breaths just to anchor yourself in the present moment. Our breath also has the ability to help us to relax and the more relaxed our bodies are, the more we can flow, and so when we find ourselves in any kind of crisis or transition, it’s always useful to just relax our shoulders and to relax our jaws, to drop into breath, because the more relaxed we are, the more that light and that energy flows, and that light brings with it guidance, it brings answers. So, now, very simply, without much effort, I just want you to trust yourself and to make the intention to drop into your heart, just trusting that your body, your consciousness knows how to do this, in whatever way it serves you, just drop into your heart now, into that place that is connected to everything around you. The heart always knows the way and I want you, now, in this place of heart, to ask for guidance or to make the intention that you are shown an area of your life, something possibly quite scary, a dream or a vision, some kind of an image you have for yourself that you desire, ask your heart to show you a desire that comes from your heart, a desire that is being whispered from your soul. Perhaps it’s really terrifying, perhaps it’s magnanimous, it’s so big, perhaps it’s a slight adjustment, but ask for that image now, and then I want you to just fall into it, just move your energy into it, perhaps you visually fall into it, just fall into the image of the energy of this image, the energy of the dream, this desire, this way of being, and I want you to just sit in it now, to just be with it. You don’t have to do anything, when we sit in this heart space, in the energy of the heart, all we need is here, all the guidance we require is known, we just need to sit in it and embody it, this vision we have of ourselves, this desire.

Of course, at any time, you can take yourself to this place, into your heart, and just ask your heart to show you the way, to give you an image, to clarify a dream or desire. So, I know that you will be back to this place soon, but you can slowly bring your consciousness back into the room that you sit, becoming aware of what your body feels like. You can wake up your face with a smile of gratitude, with the beauty that you are, and just in your own time gently open your eyes.

Nunaisi 44:54

Thank you, Robyn. That was really beautiful. Thank you so much for being here and congratulations on your book, and all the best in your journey, and thank you for the work you’re doing in the world.

Robyn Viljoen 45:14

Thank you and blessed be beautiful sister. This was absolutely divine to connect.

Nunaisi 45:21

And so, everyone else, ciao for now, and I’ll see you soon


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